Breeding heifers

Discussion in 'Beef Cattle Discussion' started by Patrickdaley, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. Patrickdaley

    Patrickdaley New Member

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    Hi everyone, i have 5 weanling bucket fed heifers and hoping to buy another one soon. They are only about 6 months at the minute but when the time comes i will put them in calf and use them as suckler cows. What bull would be best to put on Herefords,angus,simmental,limousin
    I was thinking of putting an angus or herford on british breeds (Hereford,angus) and a limousine on continentals. What do u all think?
     
  2. DoubleR

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    All are good breeds. Being involved in the angus breed of course I'd say angus. ;)
    The biggest thing is low birth weight on whatever you do choose. On heifers I feel that's more important than anything.
     

  3. Patrickdaley

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    Ok thanks. And should i put angus on the continentals too
     
  4. DoubleR

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    Angus is good on just about anything. It's crossed with everything from Herefords (black white face offspring) to brahma (Brangus) to Wagyu. All are in demand.
    I'd recommend staying away from Charolais until you've had a few calves. They tend to have large (BW) Birth weights. Great cattle but higher calving problems due to calf size on average.
     
  5. Patrickdaley

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    Ok thanks yee i was thinking the same myseld
     
  6. Patrickdaley

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    Sorry i meant *myself*
     
  7. Markwright

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    Use a Jersey bull for their 1st calf.

    they'll have em at a trot.

    breed those heifers weighing bout 550 to 650 lbs ( you've got 9 months of grow time after they're bred )

    save your 1/2 blood jersey/beef heifers...they make great cows.
     
  8. Patrickdaley

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    No i dont think ill use jerseys because they dont fatten well even if they are sucklers and i wont make much money on them so i think ill try an angus or a Hereford
     
  9. Markwright

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    Perhaps use wagyu then.
    aukaushi the red cattle from Japan also come to mind. that program bases out of Amarillo, TX, btw.


    Jersey is the highest propensity marbling breed in the usa, followed vby red angus then black angus.

    they fatten fine. quite a few use em to calf heifers because they calf easy and when keeping the heifer calves you have that ease of BW carry to thus breed those right back to angus or whatever and calf easy then too.

    an ideal big range ranch kinda cow is actually a 1/4jerseyx3/4angus.

    half blood corrientexangus bulls work well for folks that use those.

    the object is you want those heifers to calf themselves with no issues.

    if ai ing use a bull like New Standard, have seen big strings of those averaged 68lbs at birth out of heifers.
     
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  10. Patrickdaley

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    Ok thanks for the advice
     
  11. gumcreek

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    Use a low birthweight angus bull on them the first time. They should weigh 60% of their mature weight before breeding. That means your continental bred heifers should be around 900 and British bred heifers around 700lbs. before breeding. After the first calf I would go with a limo or simi bull on them. The calves will mash the scales.
     
  12. Patrickdaley

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    Yep was thinking the same myself! roughly what would that be in kgs do u know? Thanks, patrick
     
  13. gumcreek

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    Around 400kg on the continental breeds and 320 on the British breeds
     
  14. Markwright

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    use a Herfy or Angus on the continentals Also. You

    need that 1st trip to be Easy for em ( it helps stimulate more long term Motherly Love for Her calves ).

    I'd likely use a Jersey or CorrientexAngus bull on all of em etc...

    You get em into to much Pain that 1st trip and having calves is No Gain...for Her or you either most likely.



     
  15. gumcreek

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    No reason to use a junk bull and take a hit on the first calves. Don't baby them. Breed them to a good low birth weight bull and expect them to produce. If my heifers can't calve a normal sized calf the first time unassisted they grow wheels.
     
  16. Patrickdaley

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    Hi @gumcreek i wouldn't use a jersey bull either thanks they make good cows but are terrible for beef they dont fatten i think my heifers should easily be able to calve an angus bull and the continentals should be able to handle an easy calving limo bull but i think ill stick with an angus the first time around, maybe a Hereford but i think ill use an angus, thanks everyone for the good advice
     
  17. rene

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    Junk bull? Jersy bull are not junk... a bull that will clo ne himself or the mama is a good bull in my book. And a good bull will make u m
     
  18. rene

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    $$!!!!! $$$$$
     
  19. gumcreek

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    I guess they have their place but it isn't making beef.
     
  20. rene

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    Not completely true either. I see dairy steers and bulls sellin @ same $ weighing around 1ooo lbs as a black steer