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We use Australian Shepard's. We never taught them a lick. They gather up our chickens & ducks that go astray. Even our Scottish Highlander. They play together a lot. They even get our kids inline if they don't listen to us. I mean if the kids start to argue with us the dogs will growl at them and since they don't want to get bit, the kids mind us better. Dog Felidae Comfort Carnivore Whiskers
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As you can tell its late and they're tired. Our little female Angel and her older brother Andrew chaste after a rabbit when they were younger. As you can see in the picture she lost a leg when she ran into the road. She doesn't do that anymore.
 

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Grumpy thanks for sharing Andrew and Angel with me. They seem to be an asset to your home and cattle workings, even the human children cattle :)

It's a shame Angel lost that leg, but good to see that it does not stop her.

Grumpy - how many cows/cattle does Angel and Andrew take care of?
 

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Have they ever had to actually nip the children?

But they do sound valuable part of your working family.

How did you choose them, what you would suggest one should look for when choosing a dog to do such work?
 

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Megan, and Alice. our dogs are awesome. The only kids they gave nipped are my two adopted girls. They are my lite sisters daughters. She died in a car wreck. The kids cams from a really bad place in West Virginia. There dad is in prison and they are very much like him. The dogs don't like being kicked or to be beat. So the dogs fight back to protect themselves. It's been about a year since a bite has happened. If they growl. The kids stop and listen. Remember we are a rescue farm. So we personally have only LD our mini steer, butt we are surrounded by farms as far as you can see. Our friends also like to use our dogs to help them. They on the the other hand have well over 200 head each.
 

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Megan, I have two Australian cattle dogs but they are not used for herd management. I do, however live across the field from one of the oldest weekly running rodeos in the country. The owner has, for as long as I can remember, used his heelers to move his bucking stock from field to field and remove bulls from the arena during the rodeo. The original heeler, named Buddy, had quite a fan club.
 

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Megan, I have two Australian cattle dogs but they are not used for herd management. I do, however live across the field from one of the oldest weekly running rodeos in the country. The owner has, for as long as I can remember, used his heelers to move his bucking stock from field to field and remove bulls from the arena during the rodeo. The original heeler, named Buddy, had quite a fan club.
What's the name of the rodeo?
 

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Cattle dogs can be a huge asset to the farm. But you have to teach them and train them. You don't want a happy go lucky dog causing a stampede and causing the herd to go through a fence. (had this happen) Nor do you want the cattle to get spooked and break a leg. Broke leg = dead animal. Cattle dogs have natural abilities that will give them a good foundation to get the job done naturally. Making training so much easier. We have a Border Collie and a Blue Heeler pups. The Border Collie will work the neighbors horses and now the Blue Heeler's instincts are kicking in. These horses are used to dogs so they are not frightened when they see two dogs rushing up on them.

I hear it a lot, the dogs will learn it naturally but this is a dangerous way to go about it for the livestock and dogs alike. One swift kick to the head and fido is dead. The dogs need to be well trained to sit and stay, down, etc., for their own protection as well as the livestock.

We adopted a two year old Border Collie, that harassed the neighbors horses biting and pulling on their tails and caused the stampede with our cattle. The previous owner swore she was trained and came from a long line of working dogs.

Cattle dogs are amazing when trained and can make your job so much more efficient. But they have to be trained.

The livestock get trained to the dogs just as much as the dogs do. Go on you tube and watch some of thses dogs at work. They can do some amazing stuff. When my ol' man was younger he worked at the stock yards and said he didn't have to do a thing. His old Blue Heeler would do his work for him.
 

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People in western nebraska use cow dogs a lot. They mostly just run along with the horses and keep the herd moving which can be very helpful in the back on a 8 mile cattle drive. They have to be well trained or they will be more harm then help. They're also trained to jump in every tank they come to which is essential so they don't over heat. Really well trained dogs can help you sort stock. We have dog trials at our local fair. It can be funny as some aren't trained so well and this one guys dog ran out of the arena every time he turned his back.
 

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I use a kelpie for my mustering and yard work. Adopted her at 15 months old and lived with an old lady. Never seen a cow in her life.
I didn't adopt her thinking she would be any good. I just saw a nice dog.
Did some yard work the following night and she pushed all the cattle through the race by herself.
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I had a red Queensland heeler I taught him down come back and that that's enough and leave it... He was a natural herder from the day I got him at 6 weeks old he new what cows were best working dog I've ever had and haven't been able to find another to match him since
 

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About 2 yrs ago, my aunt wanted to go out and about, so I left the ranch and picked her up in my truck and we drove around town, decided to go to the pound. We just looked around, (dog lovers, ya know!) and were about to leave when we turned around and saw one more row of kennels...

We walked down and the very last dog made our hearts ache for her!
Of course, we asked about her and the lady said she would be taking her to the local pet store the next morning and adopting a couple dogs out. The next day I got up at 4:30, refilled the cattle tank, left the ranch, picked up my aunt and we went over to the pet store. Got there before anyone else, made sure of it:) Ended up adopting her :cool:!

6months in, my aunt had to give her to me because she was high energy and (aunt lived with my grandmother) needed a bigger yard. AKA our ranch:)

To me, Abby looks like a German Shepherd x kelpie mixed with a husky!
She isn't as fluffy as a husky or as big boned as a German Shepherd (which makes me think kelpie), plus she has the exact facial markings (eyebrows lol) as a kelpie...


Long story short: she is a great cattle dog. Weird mix of breeds, but it ended up making one heck of a ranch pup! No cattle training, all she had was obedience: come, sit, stay, lay down, speak.
She rarely even listen to those commands lol!
When we go out into the fields with the cattle and horses, all I say is, "Go!" and she runs and nips and keeps them all in a herd headed to where we need 'em.


Sorry for posting 7yrs later, but if you guys get a notification about this, that's hilarious, reply and let me know 😉!
Have a blessed day!

Dog Dog breed Carnivore Snout Working animal

(bad picture to identify her breed, but really I don't take lots of photographs)
 
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