Stubborn Bull

Discussion in 'Cattle' started by Raywood, Jan 12, 2015.

  1. Raywood

    Raywood New Member

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    I have a pb drought master bull who is about 2 and he's super quiet but he will not go in the cattle crush, we wanted to weigh him and put fly tags in but nothing we did worked, as soon as he gets close he backs off and short of using a prod which I'm hesitant to do as he will go but then we probably will never get him back in the yard and forcing a 950kg bull to do something is not easy! Any tricks that I could use would be great !
     
  2. Raywood

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    This is bruiser
     

  3. DoubleR

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    Is there an alleyway leading up to the chute?
     
  4. Raywood

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    Yes and he gets to the entrance and that's it he won't go any further
     
  5. twinoakfarm

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    Will he come to a bucket of feed?
     
  6. Raywood

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    Yes we also tried leading him in with food but that didn't work either, normally he will follow the bucket anywhere
     
  7. DoubleR

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    Do you have the ability to put a board or bar behind him threw the alley to prevent him from backing up?
     
  8. Raywood

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    We can't get him in far enough to do that
     
  9. twinoakfarm

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    Can u put a gate at the end of the alley and put a bucket with feed in it in the alley and when he comes to it move the bucket enough to shut the gate and latch it some how behind him?
     
  10. Raywood

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    We tried that but it didant work
     
  11. DoubleR

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    I think your about out of options short of a spanking with a cattle paddle or cattle prod. This is a common problem with pet like cattle.
    You may want to improve on your corral design a bit for the future. Add a "better" alleyway (longer maybe?) or a tub so he has no option but forward.
     
  12. Raywood

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    Yes I think we need to do something different with the run, it's such a pain
     
  13. DoubleR

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    We all have changed/modified/replaced our set ups as time goes on. No one builds the perfect set up the first go. ;)
     
  14. dmcneil7

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    Cows can be spooked or confused by the strangest things. Have you checked for shadows across the alley? They have poor depth perception and can think it is a cliff or drop off. How about chains clinking close by? They have good hearing but can't pinpoint the source too well. They also usually focus on one thing at a time. Is everyone else quiet and out of sight??and SOME use of the prod can be helpful but for me it is a last resort and I never carry it in my hand but to use it and put it down.
     
  15. tnsalersbreeder

    tnsalersbreeder Cattle GURU!

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    Set up an alley way with some panels to get him into the chute (aka crush) as you call it. Use a bucket of feed let him get a taste and then he will follow you into the alley. Have the alley setup so he cannot back up.
     
  16. tnsalersbreeder

    tnsalersbreeder Cattle GURU!

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    Then short of a cattle prod you are screwed. Maybe try running some cows in with him? Cattle are herd animals and if one or two go in he is likely to as well.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2015
  17. tnsalersbreeder

    tnsalersbreeder Cattle GURU!

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    Put a feed trough in there shake the bucket and let him see you dump the feed in. Walk away and watch after a while he will go in there at some point in time.
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2015